Unity Formulas Founder – Jerrik Keller discusses Unity Targeted Formulas. Not ALL cannabis products are created equal…
John Malanca 0:00
Hey everybody, welcome back. This is John Malanca. With United Patients Group Be Informed. Be Well. and I have a longtime friend Jerrik Keller, how are you doing?
Jerrik Keller 0:12
Doing really good, John, thanks for having me.
John Malanca 0:13
Thanks for being on my friend. We’ve done a lot over the years and I’ve worked with Jana champagne, who is one of your nurses that works with you. And I’ve worked with Jana for coming on, I would say nine years right now. So don’t let the young look for you, ladies and gentlemen, a wealth of knowledge. And I’m proud to have you on and proud. You know, I personally use your products as well share it with with my mom and family members and friends alike. So Unity formulas, let’s talk about unity formulas. First off, the CBD boom has just you know, you go to a trade show nowadays, you have 80 to 800 Different CBD companies, what’s making one standout over the other? I’ve talked about this for years that many of the CBD products out there are the same product, you and I say you and I actually I could go out and buy bulk, and just put, you know, United pace group or John CBD on there. And that’s a lot of the a lot of the products that are like that not saying it’s good or bad, but a lot of products like that. So what I always talk about with my audience in the patients that do call, find a company that either is organic grows, it themselves has full access from literally seed to sale. And that’s why you stand out. And so welcome again. And let’s talk about what makes you unity for me that and Jeric and your team stand out because there’s so many different products out there. so have at it.
Jerrik Keller 1:43
Yeah, thank you. Yeah, there is. There’s a lot of stuff out there. Our mission statement is to be improving outcomes for customers, patients. That’s where we started. When I first got in to this work, about five years ago now, what we noticed is a lot of what you’re mentioning today. So I think it starts with our core values, you know, obviously committed to quality across the board, our products, our service, customer service, you know, I’ve just been willing to speak with so many people one on one. But our specialty is making targeted formulations. So we noticed that that makes a really big difference when it comes to you know, someone having a positive outcome. versus, you know, I’ve heard it so many times I’ve tried this, I’ve tried that. And it didn’t work, and I gave it up and whatnot. And I say well, why don’t you? Why don’t you try this one. So it obviously starts with the quality of the plants. You know, all of our plants are grown organically. Here in Oregon. That’s where we’re based. I have great relationships to the farmers, I myself come from a farming background. My original passion around cannabis was the living growing plant. So I think that brings an important element into it. And so having an understanding from from start to finish. So yes, starting with wonderful plants is very important. So yeah, how we make our targeted formulations are you know, we’re using comp different combinations of cannabinoids, and also specific ratios of terpenes. We know this makes a difference, you know, versus taking just 20 milligrams of CBD. It’s what else is in there. And, you know, another important part of quality is obviously lab testing, all of our stuff is lab tested. But even in today’s you know to, in the current space testing is already a pretty common benchmark. There are a few bad actors that aren’t testing at all. But even some generic brand is going to have a level of testing. But again, what are we testing for? And it goes way beyond the milligram content way beyond, you know, just a CBD number. So, all of our stuff is organically our using organic alcohol, it’s extracted using ethanol, we do that all ourselves oversee that process from start to finish. And so we believe that provides the most amount of goodies, the most amount of wisdom from the plant into the medicine and the research seems to support that very robustly as well.
John Malanca 4:49
It’s good a lot of the patients that I’ve recommended them to you over the years. One thing that really that really stands out is that They said, Oh my god, I can actually talk to Derek and he listens. And if this isn’t working, let’s see what else we can throw in there. And I know you work hand in hand with medical professionals. So you’re not just like, oh, yeah, try this and try that and try that. You know, unfortunately, a lot of times, it’s, it’s to try to find that sweet spot, you are trying to figure out what works best for you. I do the same thing with with my sleep. My number one thing is health and wellness, I take your products in the daytime, we can go over your products here in a second, but you have a wide variety, but also a nighttime for sleep. Sleep is so important. When you miss that one key element asleep. It’s almost a domino effect of the next day with anxiety. Some people get into depression, some people, you know, get into bad eating habits, and just trying to constantly find what that sweet spot in that balance act is. And so all the feedback that I’ve received from the patients that do come to you come and go, Oh my God, you know, he’s willing to listen, but also work with us if this targeted formula is not working for the moment that I’m working for myself or my child and you work with a lot of families, you know, in the autism world, and that’s how you and I were introduced to each other with Janica Janice specializes in autism. And I have quite a few family friends that are near and dear dear to me that do their children have autism, and this is what is working for them. And we’ll do another podcast specifically on autism. But let’s talk about when people think there’s probably a friend are European French, but when people kind of think about leaving our Oregon wine, they should always think about Napa Valley. Oregon has an incredible pinos you know in throughout the country and throughout the world. And but when people think about cannabis and CBD for some reason, they automatically go to other climates like Colorado. We’re finding that Oregon and really leading the way in a lot of a lot of these products that are coming out there. I know California and I take anything away from my home state of California, but Oregon, you see people going up up to Minnesota for performance perfecting some good quality medicine, I call it medicine. I don’t know if you’re able to but I do. But but you’re seeing that this plant is growing. You do a lot with different cannabinoids and there are about 100 I always say that about 140 I you know people say 113 to 160. I mean I’m in the middle of 40 For our listeners, new listeners and old listeners, T C’s a cannabinoid, CBD is a cannabinoid, but they all play a role. And those those two and I know beyond that CBDa Teads ch ca CBN CBG they all play a role in bringing our body back to homeostasis. Can you share this one comes up all the time is John, what’s the difference between hemp CBD versus cannabis CBD which allows you at Unity formulas to send across state lines. This is if you want to share I’m kind of leading into the the percentage of legalities but if you can share the difference of really CBD. Hemp versus CBD cannabis. And is there a difference? Yeah,
Jerrik Keller 8:17
so there is a difference? And that’s a great question. I get this one still pretty often. So yeah, all of our products are made or derived from what is legally defined as hemp, which just means is cannabis that tests below point 3% thc that’s 0.3% and that’s based on mass or weight of the product. So there is a difference though, because there are some products out there that are both derived from legally defined hemp, as well as derived from what we would call industrial hemp. So this is cannabis that has been bred over hundreds of years is what we used to make rope out of it’s plastics made out of what’s harvested for seed like in Canada. And I really hope that that version of cannabis that true industrial hemp takes off especially in the Midwest, I think that’s more of the future of hemp is let’s make great bio plastics. Let’s make you know the seed is full of protein full of fats to wonderful foods source of fibers way stronger than than cotton fiber. However, it’s not ideal for CBD production. And the reason for that is because it produces such a low amount of the cannabinoids and so you can extract it for CBD or for other minor cannabinoids. Well, what we see with that is if you have to concentrate a plant that tests that 1% or 2% then you need a lot more plant material. And hemp is a bio accumulator, meaning it’s, you know, we’ve used him to clean up nucular waste, it’s sucking out toxic heavy metals out of the soil, which is why it’s so important to test for those things as well. So when we’re needing to take a larger area or larger mass of plants to get the same CBD amount, we’re going to concentrate up all of those things as well. And that’s why that’s generally not a good idea. So, in contrast, the plants that we work with, they’re legally defined as hemp they test below point 3%. But if you are driving by our field, it’s going to look you’re you’re not going to know if it’s a THC cannabis plant or a CBD cannabis plant or a CBG cannabis plant. So it’s all cannabis. It’s not a different. It’s not even a different species. It’s the exact same species as what’s producing the THC. But its genetic expression converts the CBG CBGa in the CBD instead of instead of THC.
John Malanca 11:16
You mentioned driving by your location. And so you know, that was my question. Indoor versus outdoor and are you doing both? Are you mostly doing outdoor farming?
Jerrik Keller 11:29
Yeah, so all of our plants are grown outdoor, all the farmers we work with all the stuff we do on our own, everything is grown outside in the sun, you know, there’s a time in place for for growing inside of course, those controlled environments. Luckily, we live in a place and you were alluding to this earlier. It’s just amazing how many different places this plant can grow. And so we’re very fortunate here in Oregon, so we get a lot of rain which is not ideal for cannabis in many regards, but it rains in the winter here and that’s not when we’re growing plants outside so we get these nice warm dry summers that make it very conducive for
John Malanca 12:14
the Oregon climate not only for cannabis, but again for wine you know, and they keep on using wine is an example of because you know my brother has been in the wine business for 30 years and you know I share about I don’t want people to be to stand off on BB avoid THC like I want the medical part not the not the recreational part. I know I know you are a CBD CBD company. But you know, sometimes less is more, you know, more is not always better. And so you know, and that’s, that’s that’s what I use that example about wine you know, you and I go up for wine tasting take a couple sips we’re perfectly fine but if we drink three bottles of wine, you chances are you pretty intoxicating. The same thing when it comes to to cannabis. You know THC and CBD, you know, more is not not always better. And so,
Jerrik Keller 13:02
yeah, and they’re, you know, they each have their, their time and place, of course, so we very much recognize the medicinal value of each, you know, all of our products contain at least a very small amount of THC. It’s important, we believe to not remove that portion you know, there’s a lot of what’s now coin broad spectrum products out there, the THC has been removed. And maybe if you’re in a position in life where you’re drug tested, you can lose your job. You know, I really want to see that advanced forward to that’s another subject. But they each have their own unique properties when it comes to you know, using this plant in a medicinal manner. And so yeah, so it’s just important to know, and we put on our bottles, it’s not something that most people do, we put on the label, you know, we try to list at least the top four or five cannabinoids. So even if it says you’re getting point 01 milligrams in a dropper of something, we try to put that on there. So that people are informed and you’re getting a little bit of each of these cannabinoids and, you know, the science is very much shown to this point that what’s way better than you know, just THC or just CBD is this combination. I feel like it’s kind of like beating a dead horse to say it’s the entourage effect but that’s definitely still an important concept and keeping in mind that
John Malanca 14:38
isolates and it’s unfortunate you know, I you know, I should say unfortunate the government has been now as involved with Epidiolex and I know you’ve worked a lot of patients that are going through ailments where Epidiolex is used. And it’s an Iceland it’s a cbdi so it doesn’t have any the THC it is From from real plant based thing, but having different cannabinoids, just like, you know, baking a cake and leaving the eggs out, or the flour or the water, you know, you’re not going to have the same success as if you had had all those other other ingredients. And the same thing with with, you know, products like yours. And so let me let me back up on two things here. You know what, what makes unity stand out over the other CBD companies that I was talking about? You know, when you’re walking down and do your a trade show, and you have 800 booths, you know, and 500 of them are CBD companies. And so I know the answer, but can you share what really what makes unity stand above?
Jerrik Keller 15:44
Yeah, so because of our mission to improve outcomes. Yeah, we’ve made these targeted formulas. So we have our anxiety, support, our sleep, calm, our neuro lift, there’s a whole variety, a couple different pain formulas. And so it’s not just shooting in the dark. Obviously, our cannabinoid endocannabinoid systems are individual and people have to learn what works best for them. But we’ve we’ve made it at least a little bit more individualized with these target formulas. And where these come from is from, you know, working with individuals one on one for years and testing them before bringing them forward. And so these are formulas that we know work, and they work specifically for what we’re trying to target. You know, we can’t make too many claims.
John Malanca 16:42
That’s what I was holding back on but but just just give you you know, our audience here on Derek’s website, unique formula.com, there’s a whole array of different products. And I know he’s not able to make claims, but things that I personally have used unity for sleep. So you have a sleep product, one that really stood out actually Jana, your nurse who who’s worked with us for years, you know, I was talking to her just about just life in general anxiety and this and that. And they said, have you tried Jerrick product? And I know you changed the name, what was it now
Jerrik Keller 17:18
elevate? Elevate is now so Elevate,
John Malanca 17:22
basically? Well, do you want to it basically helping with with anxiety? And I don’t want to say it’s the Well, there’s two being of the anxiety and then the concentration, I’m taking both which which is Elevate is that for the anxiety, which which I do take and it has been very beneficial. The concentration one, I’m not into pharmaceuticals, but one thing that it kind of has seen replaced with a lot of patients, including myself using it is for attention and not I think we’re we all have a DD nowadays. However, so what what was that product called? Because I just I just hit reorder reorder when I do it.
Jerrik Keller 18:05
Yeah, so Well, I think you’re referring to the Elevate with both of those. Due to the CBG content that elevates a combination of CBG and CBD along with some terpenes to target. You know, I kind of hesitate to call it like very energizing. But that’s how a lot of people relate to it. It’s definitely uplifting, and it’s definitely helps you get locked in. It’s a great morning one, it’s a great before a workout. You know, I always tell people, I actually enjoy writing an email that 20 minutes after I’ve taken that. So yeah, but then like you were speaking to earlier to you know, so many of these things are very connected, how we’re sleeping, how much anxiety and stress we experienced during the day. And one of the reason cannabis works for so many people in these areas is because we’re working, you know, we’re addressing or interacting with the largest system of receptors in the body, obviously the endocannabinoid system, you know, we’re interacting with all of our organs with our nervous system communicating to the immune system. And that’s why, you know, a lot of times we find, you know, individuals I work with find themselves in somewhat of a downward spiral in life where it’s getting the better of them the lack of sleep with additional stressors. And it’s, it’s compounding. And so we go through that and we we address, you know, one thing at a time, and we get that we get that spiral spinning upwards again, and that’s what it’s really about
John Malanca 19:48
with all the ailments I mean, it’s funny because a lot of patients will call us does cannabis work for this does it work for this doesn’t work for this and I don’t want to say it’s like duct tape with a million in one uses. But when you really get to onto it. It’s a pretty incredible print plan. And so I don’t know, are you able to talk about some of the ailments you’ve worked with, with your products that you’ve seen success with? And, you know, are you able to do that? I’d like because I know you’re not able to make claims.
Jerrik Keller 20:17
Yeah, well, we do know that, you know, this, I love that the science is definitely progressing. We know, there’s always kind of this hurdle with the, with the FDA on, you know, how much can be said and, and before the, you know, a lot of major research can be done, we need some more permission to move forward. But, you know, we know that these things are anti inflammatory, which works on many, many different levels. We know about anti fungal and anti bacterial support, you know, or it was pretty exciting earlier this year, up here in Oregon, in January, Oregon State University did a study relating to COVID, and using specifically acidic cannabinoid CBDa, CBGa. And then also THCA. And so, you know, we know that it’s working out a very cellular level, I have also worked with, I won’t make any claims around this, but I’ve worked with plenty of cancer patients. And it just makes sense. We know that the US government has a patent on CBD to protect the brain from chemo and radiation that we’ve known that for the last 50 years. And so, and I’m, I’m always the first person to say if someone says, Hey, will cannabis help me with x, y, or z, if it’s not the best fit, it’s not the best fit, and it’s not the best fit for everything. And so, I always am happy to point people in another direction, if that’s what they really need. It’s not the end all be all, it’s not a band aid for everything, that it can be used in a very intelligent way to to work on you know, the whole body or to focus on very specific things and can be a great ally, you know, amongst doing other things in life, you know, living a good lifestyle. So
John Malanca 22:21
he’s young, and he buddies with wise as well, Full of Wisdom. Now, I’m the same way we’re, I’m the first to say this is not a one size fits all. I’m the first to say it’s not a Willy Wonka golden ticket, you take this and you’ll be healed. And there’s a lot of times I share with you share with you, I’ve seen other modalities work with a higher success rate than cannabis, if you want a band aid, fantastic. You use this, if you wanted to do something that can really, I would look at this, and it’s okay to combine. And that’s a lot of patients who say, Hey, I’m going to try this and this doesn’t work, then I’ll try cannabis. And I just think, you know, give it a try, you know, you’ll be surprised that they do work well with each other synergistically. And on top of it, ask your doctor, I truly believe there’s so many states that are becoming legal now that it’s top heavy on the education for doctors. And I think the doctors are losing out where they are nowadays, you know, we’re educating a lot of doctors, you work with a lot of doctors, but they’re starting to say, Hey, this is this is becoming if I believe in it or not, it’s still becoming something that my patients are are asking, they’re concerned about. So I will educate myself on that. I’ve been to conferences in you know, up in there in the Northwest in Oregon and Washington. And I like I’m liking where I’m seeing this industry going you know, for a while there, it was kind of frustrating because like I said, everyone in their mother became an expert. And everybody in their mother was selling CBD and I’m like, come on now, you know, you really just needed this industry. And that’s, that’s the part why I like you know, I recommend No, who’s growing your product, this is still a product, you know the same thing you wouldn’t go most cases by by I should say that because people are on the side, my family’s in the farming business. So I can’t really in honeydew and cantaloupe. So you know, so the Central Valley and farming is in my blood to see what’s going out there but knowing where your product where your foods coming from where your medicine coming from, is very important as well. Before I go on about where you see the cannabis industry can you talk about I know you’ve talked about a couple of cannabinoids which aren’t in the limelight in spotlight as much as THC and CBD. You mentioned CBG Can you tell me some of the and that’s in quite a few of your products, which is been very, very beneficial for me, the CBG cannabinoid very powerful in what it does, but not as popular as THC and CBD. So can you share if you can share some of your top three Are your five cannabinoids that you’re working with, besides CBD that our audience would find find? helpful as well.
Jerrik Keller 25:08
Yeah, for sure. So yeah, definitely starting with CBG and even the acidic form CBG. A, we have a couple products that also have that in them. And I mentioned that study done by Oregon State earlier this year. What’s really exciting about CVG A is we’ve we’ve noticed that there’s a lot more overlap between CBDa and THCA. They all have their own lane and they all have their specific time. But, you know, even specifically, when it came to this study done in January, on on targeting the Coronavirus. It, we noticed that the mode of action with CBG a was different, whereas CBD and THC A were the same. And so it gives it another angle in that regard. But so that’s the precursor to all other cannabinoids in no matter what cannabis plant, we’re talking about the legal definition or whatnot. It all starts with CBGa. And then it’s converted into CBDa or THCA or CBCA. Which we won’t even get in
John Malanca 26:22
very rehearsed. Yeah, yes, I mean, actually, I’m sure you know, how many cannabinoids are on your list. 140 is on mine. Every day more have been discovered. Like growers like yourself and scientists, you know, of experimenting and trying and seeing what’s going on here. We’re going to continue on some other connections.
Jerrik Keller 26:42
So. So those are definitely very important. You know, I think when it comes to things like pain, especially, you know, since since we’re never working with very high amounts of THC, you know, for some people, that’s a viable option. And probably in Okay, I did some blend with a product like the one that we make, it’s, it’s like our day pain formula is a combination of CBG and CBD, you know, the two of them together in about a one to one ratio seems to really outperform either of them on their own. So it’s providing the body two angles, and you know, we’re working with different receptors in the endocannabinoid system. So it’s very important. In terms of its effect, they’re both have the ability to be somewhat energizing, or calming. I tend to relate to CBD from at least myself as being calming and relaxing. Whereas CBG seems to be a bit more calming, uplifting, and that’s where we kind of get into the concentration, focus energy. And so CBG has been a great resource in those regards. The other one that we’ve enjoyed working with, and this is the only one that we actually do not make ourselves is CB n. So we do use an isolated form of CBN. There’s not really a way to do it at this point any other way, in THC is what degrades into CBN. It’s a lot more sedative, we use it in our sleep formulation, but it is always combined into a full spectrum product. So we get that buffering, we get the entourage effect. But that’s been a significant breakthrough, to be able to utilize that and you know, a lot of the individuals I work with, they are not in a place in their life or their belief system that allows them to take THC and so it’s amazing to be able, you know, THC we would normally think of as being more supportive of sleep, you know, at least like an indica but yeah, having CBN in that product. In our sleep calm formulation, we also use a CBD a base. And that seems to be a little bit more neutral as well when it comes to sleep versus like using CBD. What’s interesting is, so many people I’ve talked to about CBD and sleep. They say, Oh, it really helps me with my sleep. And then you dig into the science of it or you listen to someone like Dr. Souillac. And, and he goes, Wait, no CBD is not specifically for sleep. In fact, it can be somewhat disruptive. And that’s where we go back to, you know what’s doing what and so, you know, some of us aren’t sleeping well because of the stressors or anxiety during the day and the CBD is actually calming that down. And it’s not an actual sedative, you know that we would traditionally think of as, as you know, causing sleep or helping you fall asleep or stay asleep. So it’s kind of interesting to dig into that we originally had a sleep formula that was CBD and CBN. And we noticed that work for I’d say about 70% of people. And then we switched it to a CBD a base instead of CBD with the CBN. And still, and now we noticed that works for 90 plus percent of people. And so it wasn’t like it wasn’t effective before, but there was enough people, you know, in the population that were responding to CBD in a little bit more energizing way. So yeah, it’s just those little nuances and work we’re always willing to change you know, as the science comes out, we’re putting our customer or you know, patient outcomes first. And so if what it takes to get a better outcome as we change our formula, we are happy to do that. And we’ve done it many times already. So
John Malanca 31:02
and I know you’ve done that I know you’ve done that many times with a lot of the patients that we’ve we’ve worked with and set your way as well and so that’s that’s something you know, it’s it’s very difficult one of the patient to try to find your sweet spot but even more difficult for a parent working with a child who really doesn’t know what to expect but the parent knows what the outcome is. Is Susie being able to be calm be herself or she having outburst if it’s if it’s something as severe as autism or other ailments very similar to that. You have such a wide variety of products for our audience. They’re currently all in tincture form. Will you ever change to gummies? Are you Are you wondering are you going to state stay with with with ingesting via tincture form?
Jerrik Keller 31:56
Yeah, that’s a great question. I’m not I’m not
John Malanca 32:01
on the drawing board. Okay. Yeah, put it up on the board behind it. Stay tuned.
Jerrik Keller 32:05
I’m not against edibles in any way. There are some limitations there. The biggest one being around dosage. So one thing that we tried to convey very clearly to our customers is exactly how many milligrams they’re getting encourage people to start low and work up. So when we’re dealing with a you know, a liquid form these oil based tinctures we can you can very accurately dose the milligrams when it comes to you know, eating a gummy sometimes that’s the bridge that you need to walk across to reach somebody to get a child to take product or something along these lines. If you know if that’s legal where you’re at. It can be an important step. But yeah, in order for people to know what they’re dosing, and then the other thing that we I’ve personally had resistance to in terms of gummies is just how many other things need to be thrown in the mix. And then how do we preserve the goodness, you know, some of our products are heat sensitive. And so you know, when it comes to manufacturing, gummies or, or other edibles, again, I love it when when that’s someone’s first initial access, and then from there, if you want to get more targeted, you want to use it more medicinally more specifically, we’re going to stay in that lane of what we think works the very best. Now, when it comes to flavor, everyone is different. And, you know, from more of an herbalism background, I would say you know, flavor is a part of the medicine. If it’s bitter, allow yourself to taste the bitter flavor. But you know, it’s not for everyone. So we do add an option with each of our products, they do have a flavor option. We’re just using organic essential oils, it’s not adding any sweetness, and it’s not definitely not erasing the flavor but it’s just something to make it maybe slightly more palatable for some people that have a, you know, an extra sensitivity in that area. So outside of the tinctures we do have three topical products as well that are all herbal based. So yeah,
John Malanca 34:31
yeah. So I’ll give you a prime example. Then I’ll go into my next question. My mom who had never tried cannabis, her whole life. After my father passed, I remember she shared her girlfriends were coming to us and having success. And finally mom said, does this work for sleep? And I said, Yeah, what about pain because she’s a tennis player. And I said, Yeah, she would because I’ve been using the cannabis product for the last two weeks she wouldn’t she would tell Call me or my brother. And I looked at her and I remember kind of being shocked, because that’s the last thing and but she said, You know, I, if I would have known about this when dad passed, I would have probably used it. You know, for that reason I said, Wow, her initial concept as you’re talking was a piece of gummy, or I think it was actually a piece of popcorn because she was used to vitamins were a pill. And I think a lot of the seniors that we work with, that’s one reason why it’s easy. Oh, one pill, one popcorn, one gummy. They all have that type of. And then as time has gone on, and knowing their body, and I use my mom’s example, she is switched to tinctures for that reason. She has one a night for bed, it does have a product in the daytime, when she wakes up. It’s part of her daily vitamin. And that’s the good thing about about this plant. You don’t have to have any psychoactive effect to have success with this plant. Yeah. Question for you, you know, I know your product, you can’t say it, but your products help with pain, sleep, anxiety, depression, epilepsy, autism. And I’m going to use cancer, I’m gonna say cancer back here. But but, you know, there’s so many different. You know, I know you can’t, you’re not allowed to really make claims allegedly, allegedly. You know, but I have personally seen by using a product success. I’ve seen friends and family that have used other products. And unfortunately, when you’re working with some some ailments, as severe as autism, you have to find that sweet spot, you know, certain times a month, if it’s a female, you know, the hormones and everything kind of take over the body and the mind of what’s going on. And so working hand in hand with the parents, and the patients is something that I applaud you on. Nice. So I thank you for doing that. Because when I do send patients your way, I don’t have to worry, I know, you have the patient in mind. And say I love about you too, is that it’s not a lot of companies that say you need this, you need this unit and we sell it. And you’re the first say, you know, I don’t think you need that, you know, or try this. And that even shows in your pricing. I think your pricing for the quality of medicine that’s put in and the quantity of the medicine that is put in your pricing is very affordable be because unfortunately cannabis right now is not covered under insurance. Hopefully one day it is under pet insurance. Did you know that?
Unknown Speaker 37:34
I did not lose your mind.
John Malanca 37:35
I have I have patients that I have pets, and they have pet insurance. And right on there. It says CBD oil or cannabis oil and they get reimbursed blows my mind. And at the same time. Vets are not allowed to recommend cannabis. But yeah, pet insurance will cover it. I don’t know how much if it’s 50% or 90% or 100%. But it is there. So before we move on here, what are some top health concerns that you’re seeing cannabis benefiting? I know we’ve talked about epilepsy, autism, sleep and pain. Are there others that you’re seeing? And where would you like to see the health industry? Go? You know, for a while it was literally hit the wall, that brick wall to stop. And now you’re because of the stigma one. And now doctors and patients and universities, even talk shows are talking about cannabis and the benefits. And so I know is a two part question. What do you see with the health different health concerns and the benefits of your season? Seeing? And then where would you like to see the health industry go? Moving forward? Health, I should say health or medical industry?
Jerrik Keller 38:44
Yeah. So yeah, I think you’ve you’ve covered a lot of the big ones in terms of you know, why people reach out? Yeah, I think a lot of the, I think a lot of the mental imbalances that we experience, whether it’s you know, being technologically disconnected from our natural world, or what it may you know, what it may be whether you’re a young person or an old person deep rooted patterns, or habits that have taken root or ones that you’re, you know, running up against, as a younger person. Seems to to, you know, I just speak in a in a kind of a general way that one way I like to describe can cannabis as medicine for people is it seems to put a little bit more space between you and what you’re experiencing. So if what you’re experiencing is pain, if what you’re experiencing is anxiety or stress or depression, you seem to have a little bit more room or become slightly more optional, or fluid on how you want to relate to what’s going on. Hang on. And I think that’s a big reason why it works with so many different things. And I’m not just speaking about, like, the way THC can alter your perspective or that high effect. I mean, on a very, you know, on just a very wiring level in the brain, you seem like, oh, it’s not that I even have less pain or I have less anxiety, but I’m relating to it in a new way. And so I think that’s an important piece, and one that I think covers a lot of these different specific uses. So I think that’s a big thing. In terms of like the health industry, medical industry, obviously, I work with medical professionals. And yeah, I would just like Canvas to be seen in the lane that it is intended for. You know, it’s not confusing to practitioners, or even a common person like, oh, I drink a chamomile tea at night. And it’s kind of helped help me relax. Because we’ve studied Canna mile, we know this central oil content in it, we know the different components, we know how it interacts with our chemistry, and we know the effect that it can have. And so with cannabis, it’s broad ranging in its effects. And so I like them to be better understood in that, yeah, that stigma to be removed. I think a lot of it has to do with how it’s, you know, regulated and seen by our federal government, obviously, there are shifts that that would need to happen there. But just integrating it and and following, you know, we make a lot of different business decisions, obviously. And I find myself always coming back referencing what is our mission? Why are we doing this? Okay, we’re doing this for the good of humanity, not to make another dollar, but to actually assist someone. And, you know, all of our medical professionals have taken oaths have similar intention. And I know, that’s been, you know, working with Jana, that’s always her encouragement, as well as like, Wait, if I if I’ve, you know, sworn an oath to, you know, do no harm, you know, provide something that never doesn’t necessarily have all these negative side effects. There’s, there’s always a time and a place for prescription medications and, and we’re thankful for those technological advances, obviously. But yeah, I generally advocate for more of a gentle path, some, you know, if we can do it without the, you know, the isolation, can we get it in your food, you know, and that’s an even more foundational place to start than even cannabis. What are you eating? You know, what are you thinking? What are you doing in your life? And then what are other allies that can support you and I think just cannabis is just such a beautiful ally. Doesn’t have to be THC, it can be doesn’t have to be CBD, but it can be and just understanding our own our own bodies and taking I think it’s part of the movement of taking responsibility for our own health
and our own bodies, instead of deferring to oh, let me go talk to somebody he’s going to know way more than me and obviously we’re thankful for health experts. But But I think it’s part of us taking responsibility as humans for our bodies and cannabis can be a part of that.
John Malanca 43:47
But I appreciate it one thing that you were talking about what what we put in our in our you know in our bodies regarding food and how we sleep and where we eat I’m a big fan of journaling and I think yeah, go a jerks company or whoever whatever you’re doing journal I have this type of food I took the medicine I had no you know my pain level went from two or a 10 to a eight on an empty stomach. It went from a 10 to a six okay let me so I know in my mind that I know when to take what works best for me as as many as all different you know having farmers in my family and you having it in your family you know my Uncle Steve will go out and speak to schools and that’s partly me he loves loves talking about just sharing. And it’s funny a lot of people think so where do you think your your fruits and vegetables and food come from? A grocery store. The same thing with cannabis there’s a background. It’s not just add see dirt water. And you have this plan. It takes a lot of almost babying like you have a child and so you spend a lot of time and I love your passion for that and I love your passion. For, for helping people and it’s in the in this industry, I think that’s why I get along with you get along with Janet. Because having compassion, you know, ailments is something as severe as cancer, you know, touches us all if it was from a loved one or a friend or a colleague or work colleague or your, you know, somebody will affect and so, you know, that’s one part of life that unfortunately we don’t have control of even though you are doing everything you think in the right, right thing. But Jerik, I appreciate your mindset, I appreciate what you’re doing with Unity formulas, not only helping me but helping United pastry group followers as well as all the other patients that you work with on a regular basis, you made mention to is not all about money. And that’s the one thing I like about your products. That is it’s a top quality five star product without having the five star pricing on there. And, you know, it’s making it available to more people. And so I thank you for that. On that note Jerrik has for our followers in United Patients Group family. He’s giving a promo code 15% off promo code is UPG15. So any product on his site up to 15 will give you a discount on there. And he’s really good at ordering and putting in the mail and getting it out. And so it’s nice that patients don’t have to wait, even if you know, oh my god, I forgot I ran out. Place your order, you know, and you get those orders out. So, Jerrik,
Jerrik Keller 46:39
we have free shipping for first class, if you want expedited shipping, but if you order before noon, Monday through Friday, is going to ship the same day. And so yeah, we we get things we get things out to people, we reply to every email, every phone call, you can reach out to us and you’ll be talking to real people talking to myself. Yeah, we’re here for people. So I
John Malanca 47:07
can contest that as well. And so I appreciate you, Jerrik, and everything that you and your team do there at Unity formulas. And for audience, give him a try. I’m certain that you You will find success the way I did with his product line as well. And so Jerrik Keller from Unity formulas. Thank you for being on. And John, we’ll get you back on. And I know I want to talk to you about certain ailments as well. Autism because you’re really involved with the autism community autism safe haven, and you give back and that’s another thing too. So we’ll carry that as another podcast on what you what you’re doing not only for the autism patients and families but also for the community as well. So, everybody, this is John Malanca, with United Patient Group, Be Informed. Be Well and we will see you soon. Thanks again. And thank you, Jerrik. Thank you.